- Assume nobody is folding vs. 3 bets
- Vs. frequent opener (65%+)
- Do it almost exclusively for value.
- Consider your stack-to-pot ratio (spr) if called and what your plan will be.
- 88+, ATs+, KTs+, QJs, AJo, KJo+
- Add in hands like 77, QJ, A9s if they never fold.
- Take out hands like KTs and 88 if they are playing tight vs. 3bets and add in hands like Kxs.
- Vs. tight opener 30-40% raises (usually accompanied by limps as well)
- Very unlikely to fold
- TT+, ATs+, KJs+, QJs, AJo+, KJo+
- Take out ATs, QJs, KJo if they fold to some 3 bets and add in one or two hands as bluffs that are too weak to call with.
Tuesday, June 7, 2011
BB play (3 betting)
Small PP vs 3bet ~75bbs deep
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/185/heads-up-sng/small-pp-vs-3bet-75bb-deep-1048862/
Poker Stars, $xx Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #9651022
BB: 1,440 (72 bb)
Hero (SB): 1,560 (78 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 5
5
Hero raises to 50, BB raises to 160, Hero ???
Air-Bear:
The bigger villain's 3bet-fold range is, the better shoving becomes (this is obvious). The variables we should consider are villain's 3b-fold percentage and our equity vs villain's range.
The general formula to calculate your EV in this spot is:
EV = P(villain calls shove)*(equity* [chips we can win] - villain's equity* [chips we can lose]) + P(villain folds to shove)*(dead money)
note: P(...) stands for "the probability of (...)
Now let's unleash the maths:
Imagine that you know your opponent will stack a range of 9% (A9s+, ATo+, 77+). We can calculate how much the villain should be 3betting (eg how big his 3bet-fold range is) to make a shove +EV.
Villlain's 3bet range is our variable, let it be X
P(villain calls shove) is 0.09/X
Our equity is about 39% when called
Villain's equity is 61%
We can win 74.5 bb from villain (effective stacksizes+our dead money)
We can lose 69.5 bb (72-2.5)
P(villain folds to 3B) is 1-(0.09/X)
dead money = 10.5 bb (2.5+8)
Now just fill in the info and solve the equasion for X:
EV = (0.09/X)*(0.39*74.5-0.61*69.5) + (1-(0.09/X))*10.5)
EV = (0.09/X)*(-13.34) + 1*10.5 - (0.09/X)*10.5
...
EV=0 for X~= 20.5%. So if villain's 3betting more than 20.5% (and calls the range I gave) it's a +EV play.
I hope my math is right, would be cool if someone could check it quickly
Just play around with the variables if you want to know your EV for different situations.
I understand the concept above intuitively but knowing how to do the math and playing around with the numbers is something I don't do enough of. I need to spend half a day or so with excel playing around with equities and then make a post to solidify what I learn.
Poker Stars, $xx Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #9651022
BB: 1,440 (72 bb)
Hero (SB): 1,560 (78 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 5
Hero raises to 50, BB raises to 160, Hero ???
Air-Bear:
The bigger villain's 3bet-fold range is, the better shoving becomes (this is obvious). The variables we should consider are villain's 3b-fold percentage and our equity vs villain's range.
The general formula to calculate your EV in this spot is:
EV = P(villain calls shove)*(equity* [chips we can win] - villain's equity* [chips we can lose]) + P(villain folds to shove)*(dead money)
note: P(...) stands for "the probability of (...)
Now let's unleash the maths:
Imagine that you know your opponent will stack a range of 9% (A9s+, ATo+, 77+). We can calculate how much the villain should be 3betting (eg how big his 3bet-fold range is) to make a shove +EV.
Villlain's 3bet range is our variable, let it be X
P(villain calls shove) is 0.09/X
Our equity is about 39% when called
Villain's equity is 61%
We can win 74.5 bb from villain (effective stacksizes+our dead money)
We can lose 69.5 bb (72-2.5)
P(villain folds to 3B) is 1-(0.09/X)
dead money = 10.5 bb (2.5+8)
Now just fill in the info and solve the equasion for X:
EV = (0.09/X)*(0.39*74.5-0.61*69.5) + (1-(0.09/X))*10.5)
EV = (0.09/X)*(-13.34) + 1*10.5 - (0.09/X)*10.5
...
EV=0 for X~= 20.5%. So if villain's 3betting more than 20.5% (and calls the range I gave) it's a +EV play.
I hope my math is right, would be cool if someone could check it quickly
Just play around with the variables if you want to know your EV for different situations.
I understand the concept above intuitively but knowing how to do the math and playing around with the numbers is something I don't do enough of. I need to spend half a day or so with excel playing around with equities and then make a post to solidify what I learn.
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